27 month old not walking yet, need some advice please
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Last post: 18/03/2022 at 10:27 pm
At 2, DS started to pull to stand on furniture which we were overjoyed about, however the physiotherapists were a bit worried as he always stood on his toes. They suspected tight achilles tendons so we worked on that for a while too, and now he will walk around the house with me supporting him under the arms (he refuses to hold my hands, it's a bit too scary for him atm). He is still standing right up on his toes although he can and does flatten his feet when he's sat on my lap, so we no longer worry he physically can't do it or that it hurts him.
He had an MRI done at 5 months to make sure all was okay, and it came back totally fine, but now my HV is pushing me to get a second done of his head and spine, just to be sure. I'm a bit sceptical of having a second one done to be honest, since there are so far no indications of a problem bar he isn't walking independently. A few times we have thought about mild CP but after several hospital visits we have been told he is not showing any other signs at all. The first MRI was an awful experience especially after a traumatic birth and a lengthly stay in hospital for our son. I feel as though we are in limbo constantly wondering if there's a problem or if he is just doing things at his own pace. I'm just proud of him for who he is and would just like to know if there are any other mums here of late (or not-yet) walkers, or toe-walkers, and if you have any advice or tips on helping him to get up on his feet confidently?
It is very encouraging to see the progress that your son has made to date. Walking with your support is wonderful as it gives him the chance to look at the world from a different angle, so much more to see! I am sure he is trying very hard and has every incentive to walk as soon as he is ready.
You are taking things at his pace but it is understandable that there are some nagging doubts at the back of your mind, especially now your health visitor seems to be concerned.
Have you tried one of the push along baby walkers for your son yet, one that has a restriction to prevent it running away too fast?
You have had a lot of support from the physio team and I wonder if they have ever suggested seeing one of the occupational therapists? Sometimes they work together to help children with their development. Another option could be to seek help from the Portage Home Teachingscheme in your area. The Portage teachers help children develop their emerging skills by breaking the skill down into small stages and working on each stage, one at a time.
Balance is very important when learning to walk and I wonder if your son has ever had problems with his ears? Ear infections and cattarrh for example? As a premature baby I imagine he is being followed up regularly by the audiology service, is that right?
Have you begun to think about pre-school or nursery education for your son at all Pamela? Does he go to any group activities with other children yet?
I hope some members with tips and experience to share will soon be adding to your thread....do come back to us and keep chatting Pamela.
Your story is also very inspiring for other members with new babies to read..:D
I'm starting to find it hard when he is around children his own age thou as I don't feel he's able to join in as they are all running around and I feel because he isn't he gets treated younger than he is. Have you found this?
My son has never crawled just shuffled on his bottom. He is cruising thou and can pull himself up so at least he can get around on his feet now. I think with my son a lot of it is down to confidence. Have you found this with your ds? I also think that with late walkers they are so much more aware of the dangers of falling etc that it makes them not want to let go or not be held etc.
Will your son use a walker if you hold him under the arms? If you can get him to do this (although I know it's easier said than done it may help his confidence for you to be able to let go). My son was very stubborn with his walker we had been trying to get him to use it for months. He would do it a few steps if we held him like this. Then he stopped wanting to do that all together. The other day thou he just pointed at it as if he wanted to go on it so I got it out and he held on and walked with it I was soooooooo pleased and proud of him. I've tried letting go of his hand when he is walking but he won't walk totally unaided and clings to me so I don't want to push him too much and scare him completely.
Did your sons physio give you any good advice?
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We have tried baby walkers but he's a tall boy for his age, and he ends up hunching over which the physio said wasn't great and he just got frustrated. We live in Ireland so there's no Portage scheme here, however we have just been refered to Enable Ireland for some specialist physiotherapy and whatever other therapy he may need, which is great. I'm hoping they can provide us with a special walker for him that's very sturdy because I know if he had one he'd probably love pushing it along pretending it's a car or something
His hearing is perfect, and he's never had an ear infection that I know of. In general his health is great, only one cold so far and teething pain. I have a couple of friends nearby who have kids between 1 and 2, although none his own age, but he loves them to bits. He's very sociable. I'm planning on trying out a Montessori preschool next year for him, but to be honest I don't think he would cope well with it now. He has a bit of a fear of loud groups and electronic toys so I could imagine a preschool would be a bit hectic with that in mind
I'm forever positive about his walking during the day to friends and family alike, but when he goes to bed and I start thinking about the implications of what these health professionals are telling me, and the possible reasons behind him not walking, I get very anxious and I just feel very helpless I guess that I'm his mum and I can't seem to help.
I'm starting to find it hard when he is around children his own age thou as I don't feel he's able to join in as they are all running around and I feel because he isn't he gets treated younger than he is. Have you found this?
My son has never crawled just shuffled on his bottom. He is cruising thou and can pull himself up so at least he can get around on his feet now. I think with my son a lot of it is down to confidence. Have you found this with your ds? I also think that with late walkers they are so much more aware of the dangers of falling etc that it makes them not want to let go or not be held etc.
Will your son use a walker if you hold him under the arms? If you can get him to do this (although I know it's easier said than done it may help his confidence for you to be able to let go). My son was very stubborn with his walker we had been trying to get him to use it for months. He would do it a few steps if we held him like this. Then he stopped wanting to do that all together. The other day thou he just pointed at it as if he wanted to go on it so I got it out and he held on and walked with it I was soooooooo pleased and proud of him. I've tried letting go of his hand when he is walking but he won't walk totally unaided and clings to me so I don't want to push him too much and scare him completely.
Did your sons physio give you any good advice?
I definitely know how you feel with regards to seeing them playing alongside kids their age, my son is shuffling around on his knees all the time usually while they're all running around, jumping, climbing etc. My best advice to you hun is to remind yourself he's only 19 months, they are all unique, and it really is crazy how fast they develop when they're ready. My son shuffled on his bum too, he sat up late and then one day at 15 months he just started shuffling around on the floor, delighted with himself! It's great that he's cruising too, you must have been so happy when he did if you've been worried
I do think with my son he lacks confidence too, but mostly he has very very wasted calf muscles, which personally I think is because they didn't get used at all 'til now. His main physio has given us plenty of exercises to try strengthen his calves so he isn't so wobbly standing up but they are still very small. We got him some shoes in Clarks a few weeks ago with higher ankles than the little cruising shoes, and within the first two days he began dropping down off his tip toes. I'm delighted, and now even in his socks or bare feet he is flattening his feet to the floor, so a part of me still hangs onto hope that it's just who he is and nothing wrong.
As I mentioned in my other post, he did try to use the walkers but he's just too tall for them now so he just got really frustrated bending over to get them and walk. He will only walk if I hold him under the arms, he gives out if I try just hold his hands or hold him lower as he is just too unsteady on the toes. The best exercises I got from the physio were:
-Sit him on your lap on the floor, with you sitting back on you hunkers, and his feet flat on the floor, then gently press your hands above his knees and slowly rise up a bit, so he'll take his weight, and just gradually get higher over a few days if needs be and that'll help him gain confidence and make sure he keeps his feet flat on the floor.
-Get a big beach ball and sit him on that (holding him) and his feet on the floor, helping his balance while having fun bouncing.
-Get somebody else to hold his hands while you're holding him up from behind, and just guide him around like that (our son is so much steadier on his feet this way, which is why I think a specialised bigger walker would help as he could hold onto that).
That's all I can think of at the moment but thanks for replying, and all the best to you and your son
At 2, DS started to pull to stand on furniture which we were overjoyed about, however the physiotherapists were a bit worried as he always stood on his toes. They suspected tight achilles tendons so we worked on that for a while too, and now he will walk around the house with me supporting him under the arms (he refuses to hold my hands, it's a bit too scary for him atm). He is still standing right up on his toes although he can and does flatten his feet when he's sat on my lap, so we no longer worry he physically can't do it or that it hurts him.
He had an MRI done at 5 months to make sure all was okay, and it came back totally fine, but now my HV is pushing me to get a second done of his head and spine, just to be sure. I'm a bit sceptical of having a second one done to be honest, since there are so far no indications of a problem bar he isn't walking independently. A few times we have thought about mild CP but after several hospital visits we have been told he is not showing any other signs at all. The first MRI was an awful experience especially after a traumatic birth and a lengthly stay in hospital for our son. I feel as though we are in limbo constantly wondering if there's a problem or if he is just doing things at his own pace. I'm just proud of him for who he is and would just like to know if there are any other mums here of late (or not-yet) walkers, or toe-walkers, and if you have any advice or tips on helping him to get up on his feet confidently?
My Son was not prem but has Downs Syndrome and was born with a major heart defect, so had surgery at 4 months and was 6 months before he lifted his head, as he had no body strength at all prior to the surgery
He sat at 10 months and crawled at 14 months and stood up on furniture around 16-17 months
At 21 month he took his first steps and then a month later fell ill and didn't walk again for 6 months!! So he was 28 months when he properly started to walk
Has the physio suggested Piedro boots for him? They support the ankles and would keep his feet flat
Also, I used a 360 degree seat rather than a walker, the walkers splay the hips as they move, but a 360 only rotates but they push off the floor and this strengthens their leg muscles and enables them to be upright and free of being held
Also, we has a sturdy walk along toy from Argos, which did not tip and this helped (it is what he took his first steps from)
It is slow and torturous when they are late in meeting milestones, but they do get there and it is just that little bit more special when they do
At 5 my Son is a daredevil running, jumping, balancing well and has picked up massively, so try not to worry
You sound as if you are doing everything right and it is really just a matter of time
Fran xxx
My Son was not prem but has Downs Syndrome and was born with a major heart defect, so had surgery at 4 months and was 6 months before he lifted his head, as he had no body strength at all prior to the surgery
He sat at 10 months and crawled at 14 months and stood up on furniture around 16-17 months
At 21 month he took his first steps and then a month later fell ill and didn't walk again for 6 months!! So he was 28 months when he properly started to walk
Has the physio suggested Piedro boots for him? They support the ankles and would keep his feet flat
Also, I used a 360 degree seat rather than a walker, the walkers splay the hips as they move, but a 360 only rotates but they push off the floor and this strengthens their leg muscles and enables them to be upright and free of being held
Also, we has a sturdy walk along toy from Argos, which did not tip and this helped (it is what he took his first steps from)
It is slow and torturous when they are late in meeting milestones, but they do get there and it is just that little bit more special when they do
At 5 my Son is a daredevil running, jumping, balancing well and has picked up massively, so try not to worry
You sound as if you are doing everything right and it is really just a matter of time
Fran xxx
A friend of mine has a DD with Downs who was 3 1/2 before she walked, but it just takes time and is confidence as well as physical stability
I found these pics of DS in the seat and know it came from ELC (rotating 360 seat) so not sure where you could get one now (perhaps ebay?) but this one had 4 separate legs that were height adjustable so grew with him
In the pics he is about 18 months or so, he looks much younger as he was so tiny with no hair!!!
The last one is of him around 3 once he got quite sturdy and attempted a bridge!! Happy days
The walker is this one from Argos Buy VTech First Steps Baby Walker at Argos.co.uk - Your Online Shop for Baby walkers, Pre-school.
Hope this helps
Fran xxx
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I still feel like we're in limbo now, waiting for those MRI results, but we're moving forward slowly at least and DS is very happy in himself most days. It would be nice to get some answers in the next few months so we could focus on what we could do to help him. I feel like I should be doing more but I have no idea what to do!
Our daughter was the same, but she was actually diagnosed with CP at aged 2. We always knew there was a risk though and her scans showed that from about 3 days old. There can be all sorts of reasons for toe walking though, so best not to think about the what ifs. Just make sure you are doing plenty of massage and stretching to avoid the muscles becoming shortened. Another thing that encourages Abby to put her heels down is flashing shoes. Hers only flash if she has flat feet.
Fingers crossed for the results.
Once he got the hang of bearing weight in his legs it all came quickly.
We had physio and all sorts. He simply found bum shuffling the way he wanted to go.
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