No hope

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Last post: 04/12/2021 at 1:35 am

RCIQ85TYP
Rciq85typ
10/08/2015 at 10:09 am
Hi

I'm in desperate need of some support.  My twins, A and B, were born at 23 + 4.  A did not survive and my husband and I are absolutely devastated.  Not least because we spent 4 years trying to conceive them and they were both very much wanted.  B is still in NICU after a very lengthy stay, which is largely down to feeding properly and some issues with reflux.  In terms of the stay in NICU, it's been a relatively smooth ride.    B was on the ventilator for several weeks but soon downgraded to CPAP, high flow and is now currently on low flow at the most minimal amounts.  B has not had any surgery (thus far anyway), no NEC, no brain bleeds, all head scans have come back normal (again, so far), no hernias, no infections (had antibiotics a couple of times in the early days as a preventative measure but fortunately nothing ever took hold).  B had a PDA but this closed after one course of medication.  B also has stage two ROP but surgery wasn't required and I believe the dr is satisfied that it's getting better, or at least, not getting any worse.  

Despite all of this, I can't feel positive.  I feel such overwhelming fear and panic all the time.  It only takes someone to say something even slightly negative or ambiguous about my baby's future and it sets me off again (e.g. B may have a few problems but if that happens we'll deal with them, or we can't tell you B'll be ok but so far everything is going well).  Everything I read is so negative about babies born extremely early or of low birth weight (B was both to extremes) that I wonder why the drs intervened if the future is so bleak?  Please don't think me cold and heartless for saying that, I feel bad enough already.  I just want what is best for my baby and I am not convinced that this is it.  I've spoken to the drs about this but they cannot give me much reassurance because they do not know what the future holds.  

In all honesty, this is affecting my ability to bond with my baby.  I think I distanced myself from B after A died as I was expecting the same to happen again.  But this has now been made worse by the crippling fear I feel all the time.  I cannot bear the thought of B having any form of mental disability.  Not because I am prejudice in any way or intolerant of people with such disabilities (quite the opposite, I have a background in disability) but because this is not what I wanted for my child (I know no parent does but I can't seem to get past it) and because I've done this to B (the birth may have been out of my control but it was still my body who has let them down).  

I know this is a lengthy post but I needed to get everything out.  I hope no-one will judge as I am in a really bad place and am just trying to do the best I can.  I've already spoken to my gp and my health visitors are not helpful.  I don't know where else to turn.
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COR71XRP
Cor71xrp
10/08/2015 at 10:31 am
I'm sorry i don't know what to say.  My preemie was born at 29 weeks and as scary as that was, not as early as yours.  Below is the bliss helpline.  I've called them before and spent half an hour sobbing someones ear off. They have professionals available to speak to you and you can stay anonymous.
Best of luck. I'll keep your family in my prayers.

 0500 618140
Bliss | Helpline
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CAR53JGV
Car53jgv
11/08/2015 at 6:06 am
I am so sorry for your loss.  I had twin girls at 25+2 and lost one at 1 day old.  My survivor was 659g, had a grade IV ivh on her left side and small bleed on her right.  I spent the first year not enjoying her as much as I should worrying what her quality of life would be like as we had been told it was a waiting game to see if she would walk or talk.  She is 5 now and apart from being a little small and having a weak core which doesn't affect her in anyway apart from she has to work harder in gymnastics she is just like any other child and is due to start school next week.

I would say try and enjoy your baby but I know it's difficult.  There is another lady on this board has a surviving 23 weeker twin who will hopefully reply too.  

Good luck xx
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ALE16LMN
Ale16lmn
13/08/2015 at 11:50 pm
Hello,

I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your twin. Our son  was born at 27 + 3. There was no space at the local SCBU and he was rushed to a teaching hospital. The first night he struggled with bradycardia and apnia. He had twelve machines helping him to survive. The doctors and nurses were wonderful but like any one in medicine they don't want to build up your hope. I suspect it is just as hard for them knowing that you are desperate for any thing to cling to that would give hope of a future. He had a brain hemmorage so we didn't know if this would impact him. And like many premature babies he had his up days and down days. He needed oxygen all the time he was in hospital. Gradually he got stronger and was moved back to the local hospital. Even though they did not have the technology the doctors and nurses could sense when things were needed. Each little milestone he passed, he drank a mil of milk!, was another step. As we got closer to his original birthday they thought he could come home but his breathing was still not strong enough and we were preparing to get oxygen fitted at home.  But one night he pulled out his oxygen tubes and didn't need them.
It is 15 years later and he is, as any parent would say, a big clever and lovely boy. We are facing all the things you would with a normal teenager. Developmentally he was with his peers and passed the exams for a good school. He is growing all the time.
Do not give up hope. You have been through a lot and you mustn't blame yourself. Despite having tests we never found out what caused his prematurity. It was just one of those things.
The best piece of advice I can give is to deal with each day and milestone as they arise. Every day your child will get stronger as I am sure your love for them will.

Being a parent is all about worrying for the future of your child - it's what parents do.

Please take heart and my thoughts are with you.
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CATHERINE W(539)
Catherine W(539)
15/08/2015 at 9:29 am
Hello Anon,

How are you and B doing? I'm so very sorry that you lost one of your babies - it is absolutely devastating and my heart goes out to you and to your husband.

I had my twin girls at 23+4 back in 2008. Sadly one of our daughters became very poorly whilst in the NICU and we had to take the decision to withdraw treatment. Our surviving twin struggled to come off the ventilator but, apart from that, had a relatively smooth time in NICU. In fact your B sounds very similar - we also had no surgeries, PDA closed successfully without surgery, ROP resolved itself, no NEC. She had an umbilical hernia and gave us all a bit of a scare with a brain bleed and sepsis. But finally came home to us after 128 days in hospital.

Firstly, please be kind to yourself. It is very tough. It really is. Looking back I don't know how I got through it. Having to grieve for one of your babies whilst the other is still so unstable and a long NICU stay is like running a marathon, it is just so exhausting with so many twists and turns and, as you reflect upon in your post, an uncertain outcome. It is understandable to be overwhelmed with fear and panic. I certainly recognise your description of EVERY comment, even those which are only slightly negative, setting off an overwhelming reaction. I remember crying when one of the nurses mentioned she might need to wear glasses which really - given the situation at the time - was a completely ridiculous response on my part!

I think that the doctors do try to prepare parents for a range of outcomes and, due to that, they can sound very bleak. Outcomes for babies born at such early gestations and low weights are very hard to predict and there is a lot of 'waiting and seeing' which can be pretty agonising. If it helps - my daughter is just coming up to seven now, she is at a main stream school, she has no physical disabilities apart from issues with hypermobility in her joints which has some impact on her fine motor skills and speech, cognitively she is totally fine. But she is her own sweet self! I don't know if any of her issues are down to her early birth or if they are just part of her and would have happened anyway.

I don't find your attitude to resuscitating babies at such early gestations cold or heartless at all. Unless you have been there, it is difficult to fully understand the process of treating such tiny babies. Maybe not right now as it might be too close to home but I found the book, This Lovely Life by Vicki Forman a really interesting reflection on the process (she also had 23 weekers twins)

I still feel in my heart that my body let my girls down but, rationally, I know it was completely beyond my control. Please try not to blame yourself. You know how loved and wanted your babies were and you would have done anything within the realms of possibility to protect them.

I really hope you pop back and see my post and I'm sorry that the GP and health visitor have not been particularly useful to you. If you would like any ideas about where to get support I can send a list of things through by PM (this post is already quite long!) but, just off the top of my head, you might find the TAMBA bereavement group helpful? They have a facebook group for parents who have lost one baby, more or all their babies from a multiple birth. It has made me feel less alone and there is always someone to talk to.

Sending lots of love and strength to you, your husband and B. Remembering your dear baby A.
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SHANNON H(113)
Shannon H(113)
04/12/2021 at 1:35 am

I was in this position and iv noticed the date of this post I was wondering how your child is my son is a surviving twin (23+1)

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SHANNON H(113)
Shannon H(113)
04/12/2021 at 1:35 am

I was in this position and iv noticed the date of this post I was wondering how your child is my son is a surviving twin (23+1)

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